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Are elderberries toxic?

Every once in a while I get questions from people trying to learn about edibles. This is one such post.  I hope some find it helpful.

Question:

I saw your post about elderberries

I do not live anywhere near enough to attend your courses (so if you would oblige me), how can I be sure elderberry is edible when so many other sites say they are poisonous?

My Answer:



The other sites are just spouting one myth after another. My research goes beyond that. I have eaten them. Lots of them and I have eaten them raw with no ill effect whatsoever. The only story I can find about toxicity of elderberry is a story that has not been corroborated about 6 people down in the Southwest USA that cold pressed a large amount of elderberries. They made juice from these raw elderberries and then drank all the juice. One person drank 6 cups of this raw pressed juice and was hospitalized. Sounds scary when all you hear is that somebody who drank elderberry juice was hospitalized but that’s like saying my son almost died from eating a peanut therefore peanuts are poisonous.

What is missing?
Who were these people?
Was alcohol involved?
Were the berries ripe or some green or not so ripe?

If you cold press a large amount of apples and make raw applejuice (or any other fruit for that matter) and your body is not used to such a diet you will get indigestion. You will feel very sick and you may go to the hospital. Does that mean that the fruit or juice was the only factor and is therefore toxic or poisonous?

You also need to recognize the difference between the words toxic and poisonous. Some people think they share the same definition. Not so.

Finally, get your advice from credible sources. As I said before, many of these people who pass on the myth are doing just that. They read somewhere that it is toxic and so they pass that on with no research. My research includes books from Samuel Thayer who actually forages a lot as I do. He eats this stuff and has done many tests on them as well and he is a much better guide than others who have not spent their time eating from the wild.

I had a recent experience with a person from out of state who wrote a cookbook about eating from the wild. This person contacted me to help put together some gift packages for people she is doing a presentation for and I was impressed that this person has a cookbook created for the kind of stuff I teach people about. What I found out as we began to work together on this project is that this person has no first hand knowledge about the topic. I don’t know where the recipes came from but they obviously were not from first hand knowledge. Unfortunately people do that all the time in today’s world and that is why we have the continuation of such myths.

One last thought on Elderberries comes from my family history. I was reading in some stories about my ancestors and found a story where they mention harvesting elderberries and currants and service berries. Everything I have been recently learning about was mentioned casually in their story because back then it was a way of life. This was pre-1900 in Tooele Utah. This is another story that makes me feel safe with these berries. Keep in mind of course that they often dried them or made preserves with them. I don’t think I would just make it into juice and then drink it all in once sitting.

Bottom line is I eat these things to test after I have verified all I can about identification and edibility. If you choose to take my first hand knowledge and try something yourself I hope you enjoy the experience and I hope you do it wisely. I only teach edibles and encourage eating a wild plant when I am certain about it’s edibility but of course your actions are your own and you must do all your own research to verify. Start little by little and enjoy foraging. Don’t be afraid of it.